(1) Can you define “eternal punishment” for me in the context of Matt. John Stott admitted that eternal conscious punishment would be much more sensible to him if “perhaps (as has been argued) the impenitence of the lost also continues … First, Augustine. Hell, as a place of eternal punishment, is not biblical. 2) Even if Eternal conscious punishment was a worse punishment it does not mean that that automatically makes it the final punishment. Matthew 25:46 says, “These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” Annihilationism is eternal death, but Jesus doesn’t say the unsaved will go to eternal death as opposed to eternal life. Grace Chapel affirms that Scripture teaches the reality of a place of conscious , eternal torment away from the presence of God called variously, hell, eternal punishment, eternal fire, outer darkness, the place of weeping and gnashing of teeth, etc. The traditional view that hell is eternal, conscious suffering is by far the most predominant view. The Inconsistency of Arguments for Eternal Conscious Punishment. and suffering, 5.) As I mentioned in my previous post, I am working through two chapters of Zondervan’s Four Views on Hell: Eternal Conscious Torment (Denny Burk) and Terminal Punishment (John Stackhouse).See my previous post on Burk’s chapter.. John Stackhouse: Terminal Punishment Stackhouse articulates and defends the view often known as annihilationism or conditional immorality, … Hell is not eternal conscious torment because the Bible consistently states that the punishment for sin is to perish or to be destroyed or to experience death. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. An eternity of punishment for sins committed in a finite lifetime seems unfair, i.e. The Scriptures make clear that even the most seemingly minor infractions of God’s commands are taken with inestimable seriousness. When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. However an increasing number of theologians and biblical scholars reject the traditional premise that the Bible teaches that those who reject God suffer eternally. This creates a problem for the annihilationist view. So, in regards to eternal conscious torment, degrees of punishment are a mathematical impossibility. The doctrine of eternal conscious punishment vs the alternative. His argument is this: Just as today, someone can commit a crime in one second and be jailed for life (isolated from the city), someone can also be judged by God in the same way (isolated eternally from the city of God) October 11, 2013 Cody Leave a comment. The Bible has a lot to say about the final end of both the redeemed and the lost. They have to say that “eternal life” includes an ongoing conscious experience for the righteous, but “eternal punishment” is not an ongoing conscious experience for the wicked. Scripture says that the punishment of sin is death. In my previous post, I summarized some of the strongest biblical arguments in favor of terminal punishment. Keep in mind the five elements needed to support the traditional view of hell: 1.) 25:46 without assuming it means “eternal conscious torment”? He defends eternal punishment against the claim that "it's unfair for a punishment to last longer than the sin". Let me begin with some of the weaker, though common, arguments that are often given for ECT. Pharisees weren't being warned of Eternal Conscious Torment. This phrase, “eternal conscious punishment,” occurs in the longer statement that addresses the eternal destiny of believers and unbelievers. There is no explicit statement of eternal conscious punishment for condemned human beings in Scripture. a place in the afterlife, 2.) Matthew 25:46 is the poster child verse for those who believe in eternal conscious torment in hell. It does not say that the punishment of sin is torment. So back to Hell. Words must be defined by Scripture not given assumed meanings by us. “the punishment doesn’t fit the crime” The view of Hell as eternal conscious torment is not Biblical, but is imported from outside philosophies. 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